Hummus Bros Interview
How do you find the Perfect Business Partner?
It is very difficult, as the relationship with the business partner consists of good as well as bad times as in any relationship. It is a close relationship, as you work with someone on the daily basis. You need to find one who you could trust, who works extremely hard and does not give up. Also, it is essential to separate in the early stages of the business, who runs the business on the day-to-day basis and who looks at the long-term vision. As things go wrong all the time, which is emotionally draining and potentially could pull you down. What we did about a year ago, which made a dramatic difference, is that we hired MD (John Russell), helping Ronan and I being completely independent from the business on the day-to-day basis.
Would you recommended to start the business with a friend?
It is always a good idea to start the business with a person who you are friendly with, however, there is much more to that. There are some friends who I certainly would not start the business with, and there are some partners that I would not be so friendly with. I do consider Ronan my friend and as a business partner, and the relationship has evolved a lot in the last 10 years. This could potentially be compared to the marriage, as would you marry someone you are friends with? Or is it someone who you want to build a family with? Maybe it is both, and this could also be applied to the business.
What was the biggest struggle in setting up the company?
There are so many issues that we have faced, however, the biggest issue was realizing how much of an emotional roller-coaster setting up the business would be. When I saw my friends go and work in the banking industry, when they leave work at the end of the day, they could physically and emotionally disconnect themselves from work. Whereas, when it comes to running your own corporations, separating your career and your personal life can be extremely sticky.
How do you plan to retain your good employees?
Staffing is always a challenge. When customers react positively or negatively, 90% of the time is down to the staff. We have got a number of incentive schemes in place: employee of the month, bonus for each of the shop- managers if they hit a certain number of sales and an individual who brings the most deliveries. Our goal is to include the staff as much as possible, creating the culture the want to be part of.
When it comes to hiring, is CV an important factor in determining whether to hire an individual or not?
CV gets you past the front door, however, the majority of the skills can be learnt, and after a few months in a job, most people will know the ins and outs no matter what their previous experience was. But a good personality and attitude is something you either do or do not have.
Do you plan to release another cookbook in the near future?
The first release was all about the sixty recipes that we serve in the restaurant and now we want to do one specifically on gluten- free food. A lot of people try to reduce the amount of gluten they eat,
In what supermarkets are you planning to sell your products?
It really pains me to see people eat low- quality humus from the supermarkets, and it is not only me that feels that way. The motivating factor of entering supermarkets is that some customers do not know the true taste of humus due to a current low- quality range of humus that is available, and subsequently prefer not to it. Secondly, the majority of the people use humus as a dip, however, it is much more than just a dip! In Hummus Brothers we serve it a base, you could also have it as a spread instead of butter, which is much healthier. There is education to be done, by telling people more about humus. Finally, current packaging in supermarkets looks all the same, cheap and uninspiring.
What strategies are you willing to introduce in order to sustain such a high level of demand in the next 5-10 years?
Firs of all, we are currently raising money using the Crowd2Fund platform, in order to open 2-3 new stores in London. We will continue to expand our corporate restaurants, however, two ultimate strategies: selling our products in supermarkets and opening a new franchise abroad.
Have you considered opening up a branch in UK, but outside London?
My concern opening a restaurant outside London is that I do now know the market well enough. In London, I know a sufficient number of people to gain advice from and I have a greater understanding where it would more or less suitable to open up the business. Whereas, in Manchester, Bristol or Leeds I am sure there are great places to open, but I as already mentioned, I do not know the market well enough.
Any last advice to anyone looking to start their own business?
My main advice is that you should not do it alone; you need someone to bounce the ideas of. Similarly, once you have passed the boot- strapping stage, hire someone to really run the day- to- day operations of the business. We should have done much earlier on!